NCR Black Swamp Division (Div 1) Officers

Superintendent - Marshall Stull
Assistant Superintendent - Brian Burr
Chief Clerk - Ray Huber
Treasurer - Randy Bosscher
Trainmaster for Services - Steve Glass
Director At Large - David McMullian
Director At Large - Tony Kukwa

Appointments and Helpers

AP Program - Ron Gilbert
Editor/Webmaster - Marshall Stull
AV/Computer Support - Steve Glass
AV/Computer Support - Steve Richwine
New Member Outreach - Open

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We need stuff for the Train Order! Please submit any article/photo/information to the editor. any kind of information is great, please tell us what you are up to!! Even if it's just a photo of your layout, something you saw, or what's on your worktable we would love to see it.

Sharing is the best way to spread the hobby and ideas.

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Train Order

Vol #93 September 2024
Division One of the North Central Region of the National Model Railroad Assoc.
Our mission is to promote education and fellowship through the sharing of information and the promotion of the world's greatest hobby. - Model Railroading.

From the Editor

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Sorry for the late publication of this newsletter! I usually try to have this out at least a week prior to the next meeting but the summer went by so fast and our first meeting is early!! Even so we have some great content for this issue. We start things off with a recap of our summer outing to The Steam Railroading Institute and Durand Union Depot, then we have an article by Ray Huber on The Ghost car. We are starting to get some great content from people but looking ahead we always need more! If you have an idea, please let me know. I am sure we can work something out.

WANTED! - Photos and Articles for the Train Order!! New content is always needed, and new thoughts and ideas are the best. Even new twists on old ideas are great. Maybe you have a certain technique for ballast or car maintenance or a locomotive you just upgraded. Send a photo and a small paragraph. It does not need to be professional, just jot it down in an email and fire away. Any content is welcome. Email any content or ideas to the editor at blackswampdiv@div1.ncrnmra.org.

View from the Cab

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It's been a great summer, but it is starting to roll into Model Railroading Season!! The train shows are starting hence our early meeting date (9/13) this year. We are looking forward to a great season of Model Railroad Goodness. Our first meeting of the season will have some news I am sure everyone will find interesting. Sorry, I cannot let the animal out of the box yet, but I am reasonable sure you will like it!

Every month we try to plan clinics which are unique and informative. This year we plan to try a few new twists to make them as entertaining and hands on as we can. The clinics are sure to inspire and challenge everyone's creative skills and make this season one of the best. Even though we have clinics planned, we still have space for more and we want new ideas!

Another feature we will continue this year is the Open House of a member's layout. For September the 14th, Richard Prorok will open his home from 10:00Am to 2:00PM for anyone who wishes to tour his layout. See the article later in this newsletter for exact time and location.

As has become a tradition, our meeting this month will focus on our members with "What I Did Over the Summer" show and tell! Bring a model, a new purchase, a photo, whatever train related thing you did over the summer. We are looking forward to seeing what everyone has been up to.

I look forward to seeing everyone at the meeting!

Marshall Stull,
mstull@marshallstull.com
Superintendent

Clinic Corner

What I Did Over the Summer

ALL OUR MEMBERS ARE THE CLINIC THIS MONTH!

Welcome back to the modeling season everyone! I hope everyone had a great summer. I'm interested to hear what everyone did over the break. So bring some models, pictures, or presentation of some sort and share what projects you've been working on. Even a good story is entertaining, and that's what we're all here for, sharing and fun. See you all soon!

See you there,

Brian Burr,
Assistant Superintendent

September 13th Meeting Agenda

meeting Here is a quick breakdown of what to expect at the meeting:
  • Rip Track Table - Have items you want to sell or just give away? Put them on the table
  • Business
  • Show and Tell - What I Did Over the Summer
  • Break
  • Door Prizes
  • Show and Tell - Continued
  • Closing Remarks - Announcements and Open Discussion Points

Doors open at 6:00PM, Meeting Starts at 7:00PM
Proclaim FM Community Center
7112 Angola Road,
Holland, OH 43528.

OPEN HOUSE - Saturday, September 14th, 2024, 10AM-2PM

Open House

The first home layout tour for the new season will be Richard Prorok Town of New Bridge Railroad. The layout is only 1.5 miles from Proclaim where we have our meetings.

Richard Prorok
Town of New Bridge Railroad
Saturday, September 14th, 2024, 10AM-2PM
7648 Hidden Springs Dr.,
Holland, OH 43528

The layout tours are private residences so parking will be limited! Try to carpool if possible!

The lighter side of the hobby - by Doug Hickman

Summer Outing Highlights

The following are some images from our 2024 summer outing.

Our visit to the Steam Railroading Institute started with a small train sale! The institute takes donations and has the items for sale in the store. Once everyone arrived (Some poeple were actually delayed by a train of all things), we split into two groups and proceeded to view the many historical cars the institute has.

Our group was led by Division 1 member, Dean Pryers. For those who may not be aware, Dean is the President of the Steam Railroading Institute. How could we not feel like we were getting the inside scoop from the President himself!

Due to some construction on the site, PM 1225 was parked on the turntable, so we had to view it from a distance. Even so, there was no mistaking the steam power of this locomotive and it made a nice frame for photos.

The day was very bright and sunny as shown by the sunspot on the photo. Warm but not too hot.

The institute has several pieces of vintage rolling stock like this AA boxcar.

I was surprised to see these vintage tank cars! Old box cars are often re-purposed, but tank cars usually do not survive as well.

The institute bumps up against the GLC locomotive servicing area, so we were treated to a unique view.

We were only able to get a quick view of the inside of the shops. They were doing some construction, so our access was unfortunately limited. Here we can see a car being painted.

Here is our group taking a break in the shade. We had a pretty good turnout!

After the institute we went to lunch in Durand and from the restaurant we saw two freights pass through. After lunch we meandered around the station visiting the museums and the club layout.

The Ghost Car - by Ray Huber

Back in 1966 and fresh out of Engineering College, I went to work for the New York Central Railroad System (NYC). Technology then was not quite up to today's standards. Nevertheless, it was "state of the art" at the time. Case in point was one day when I was in New York City on my orientation visit with the NYC I was taken all over town just so I could get a mental picture of what was going on and where things were. One of the places I visited was the new computer room at NYC headquarters, which was located on Lexington Ave. in downtown Manhattan.

Just like myself, I met a group of young college graduates acting like proud parents of the big new "mainframe" computer that took up most of the room we were standing in. They wanted to show me the latest and greatest technology in keeping track of cars that were out there, somewhere, on the System. The demonstration they used was to ask if I knew a car number and type so they could enter the information into the computer. The idea was, if you were a shipper or receiver and knew the car type and number, they could tell you in a moment just where that car was and it's status.

For some unearthly reason, I did remember the number of a new ballast hopper car I saw at a derailment site in Milbury, Ohio, just East of Toledo. This was in the early 1960's, the cars were brand new and paint-shop-fresh (no weathering - yet). The train with these cars in tow was delivering new ballast to the derailment site.

As a matter of fact the car shown here was one of those cars, and the number, 950112, stuck in my mind. I think you get the idea and you're right. I gave them the number of the car shown in the photo along with the car type, and right there before my eyes the operator typed in the data and low and behold, the screen lit up with all known data about that car. I don't remember all the particulars, but the car (as I remember) was in St. Louis and I had no reason to doubt what I saw or what the computer said.

As a side note, this wreck happened before I started my Undergrad studies in 1961. A friend of mine and I went to the site after hearing about the wreck as nosy onlookers and with my camera at the ready. In those days, there was no one around telling you to get off Railroad property. So, we just looked and took a few pictures. What I did see as I walked the site was the picture shown below. No way of knowing for sure, but what you see in the photo looked rather suspicious to me. Notice the wheel axel and journal box.

A VERY INTERESTING WRECK DETAIL

We now move from New York City to Detroit Michigan and my first day on the job with the Northern Division. Once again, lots of things to see and people to meet. Much to my surprise, one of the places I visited was the new computer room and another "mainframe." Playing along as if I knew nothing, I asked my guide just what the system could do. You guessed it; he told me the system could find any car on the railroad if the car number and type were known. Now I was hard pressed to come up with a number since I'd already forgotten the number I used in New York. As it happened though, the Computer Room was located on the second floor of the Michigan Central building located on Michigan Ave. at the corner of Vernor Ave. The building still stands today, but (at that time - 1966) it was mostly an empty shell except for some offices occupied by the NYC, including Engineering, which I reported too. My ghost still walks the halls (I had an office on the 12th floor over looking the train shed) and I still have fond memories every time I drive by when I'm in the area. Sorry, I got off track for a minute! Having said that, I'm overjoyed to see that today someone has taken the initiative to save the structure and history by refurbishing the building into a valuable entity for the community.

Back on track again, it just so happened that the second floor view from the computer room looked right across Vernor Ave. at the old passenger car storage yard, now a parking lot, located at the opposite end of the Michigan Central building pictured here. And there it was just as clear as a bell, an old NYC baggage car, its number still very visible. Unbeknownst to my host and still looking out the window, I rattled off the car type and number (long forgotten at this writing) as he keyed in the data. Like I said, I could see the car, but he could not because he did not know I was looking out the window as we spoke. With all the confidence in the world, he continued to key in the numbers and sure enough, on the screen there were all kinds of data concerning that car.

In summary, here's what it said - "CAR TYPE - baggage, RAILROAD - NYC # 1234, LOCATION - Buffalo, New York." I'll never forget the look on his face when I pointed out the window and asked him to look at the car number on that old baggage car (original number long forgotten - a fictitious number, 1234, used for this article). Needless to say, my attention was shifted to a different activity and I never saw the man again. I often wonder how that problem was resolved. I would guess the car was moved from Buffalo to here and no one bothered to report the move let alone the car reporting marks. Where is my "GHOST CAR" today? I would guess it was scrapped and melted down like so many other Railroad items.


Stinky Creek Railroad For Sale

It is with great sadness that we must announce that Jim Treadaway's Stinky Creek Railroad will be sold for medical reasons. If anyone is interested in buying the entire railroad, it comes with a very nice house and property. Those interested in the whole thing will need to make their intentions know ASAP or the layout will be sold piecemeal at a Liquidation Sale on Saturday October 5th from 9AM to 4PM at Jim's House.

We are saddened to see such a fantastic layout disappear, but Jim is taking it in stride and is looking forward to setting up a new modeling space at his new home so he can concentrate on his favorite part of the hobby, structure building. Photos of items Jim will be selling can be found at https://imgur.com/a/stinky-creek-2024-al5CGkk.

Upcoming Events

If you know about an event happening in our division, please let us know so we can make everyone aware. If a club is having an open house, setup, or other activities, we could help promote it!